Rick Lagina is skeptical about the curse — but can’t explain paranormal happenings on the island

The aforementioned and titular “Curse of Oak Island” seems somewhat independent from the actual history of the Oak Island money pit.

Though the latter legend is rooted (at least, in theory) in actual, traceable historical concepts like the Knights Templar or the tale of Sir William Phips, the curse’s connection to reality is far more tenuous.

“We tried to chase down where the curse came from and no one has really been able to define where it comes from,” Rick Lagina said to MyNorth.

“But I will say this about Oak Island: It is a kind of a scary place, especially at night.”

In an earlier interview with Detroit News, Rick shared a similar sentiment.

He told the outlet that, though Marty Lagina doesn’t seem to believe in the curse, he personally has trouble dismissing certain occurrences despite his own skepticism.

“I tend not to be dismissive of things I don’t understand,” he said.

“But strange things happen on that island, some of which we get to explain.

” Of those strange events, Rick recalled to MyNorth an unexplainable “aura” and “equipment malfunctions” near certain important locations.

“We have heard ‘That’s never happened before,’ from operators of equipment more than we care to hear.”

Marty Lagina’s vineyard is decorated with Templar imagery

One of Marty Lagina’s various successful business ventures is Mari Vineyards.

Located in Traverse City, Michigan, nothing about the sprawling vineyard is too mysterious, save the strange amount of iconography paying homage to the Knights Templar.

In addition to displaying traditional chainmail and a 100-year-old chalice, the vineyard is decorated with numerous Templar crosses that Marty is a bit coy about.

Of the two metal ones displayed in the entryway, Marty only tells the History Channel that “somebody” brought them to the vineyard, and he decided to keep them.

Of the large, red Templar Cross painted on the floor of one of the caves, he declines to “say all the reasons that’s there.”

He merely states that it’s there partly to connect the location to their interest in history, and that it only means unspecified — and therefore, very mysterious “good things.”